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2016/11/08: My Message to Millennials: How to Change the World — Properly

2016/11/08: My Message to Millennials: How to Change the World — Properly

100 comments on “2016/11/08: My Message to Millennials: How to Change the World — Properly

  1. Dr. Peterson, you've often mentioned the flood of letters/emails you receive from young people thanking you. I'd like to contribute to that flood and without boring you (or anyone else who may read this) with the details, I would just like to simply say: "thank you".

  2. I feel like sometimes I'm too smart to live happy fully… since I'm young… sensitive TO what's around us… ohh damn I wish I could speak with you for hours!

  3. If you like Clint Eastwood, check out high plains drifter. Arguably his most 'controversial' and well written. Hollywood would never put a film like this out nowadays.

  4. Jordan Hi I love You ! I'm really hoping you search on Jesus's Real or not..I love Jesus God the father and the Holy Spirit all 3 in one..please I'm hoping you find out Jesus is Real just like God. God Bless, I admire you so much and you Really blow my mind in this Generation!

  5. We all Find real meaning in this world and we all know the truth about Meaning in Life, and I find Truth in this man Jordan, Much Love to you and your Family (:

  6. Man, I thought he was about to play Nas' "You can hate me now" when the orchestra started playing Carl Orff's "Carmina Burana".

  7. The thumbnail for this video is fracking Awesome. I already knew Dr. Peterson was an intellectual powerhouse, but that one took him to a whole new level.

  8. So why should I go to class? Why should I go to work? Idleness is a devil's tool. That's why. Boredom acts like a magnet for comfort, seeking pleasure to fill the void of nonexistence. Wait, is that it? Nonexistence? Passive living? Inactivity? The Bhagavad Gita illustrates that one should be an active painter of one's life. Only weak minds cling to the idea of predestination.

  9. I appreciate your views, though I think you mischaracterize Marx and overlook ideological and circumstantial difference between someone like Lenin, who I view as an opportunist. I also don't think you separate the broad spectrum of socialist thought, of which Marx is only a member, and therefor prevents reductionist attempts to superimpose the two of them. I personally am an Anarchist in the tradition of syndicalism, and I think the Coop model to be the most viable means of reforming society to deal with it's inequality problem. I do not believe equality-of-outcome is desirable of even possible, and I recognize there is an avoidable place for markets. As such, I consider myself on the left as a libertarian-socialist, but I do not often identify with what gets called the left in terms of identity politics, which I view as highly cancerous and unproductive. Not do I believe in the blank-slate or epistemological relativism. What I think has been happening is that identity politics have usurped the classifications of left and right independent of economics, which presents a high dilemma for talking on the issue, since what appears to be hidden within the enclaves of tribal identity is a lurking right-wing economic position that uses the left in the ambition of seizing resources for their own group. Anyway, I am a dual-major in Linguistics, focusing on Semantics, and History, focusing on the Ancient Near East- The Biblical Levantine Cultures and Mesopotamia (I focus rather heavily on Assyriology, as I have spent a lot of time to become a Cuneiformist), if it would be at all possible to have a conversation some time I would most appreciate it. I think I would be able to present to you a rational argument for Libertarian socialism of the syndicalist variety, and provide a good example of how we are not all Marxists or subject to Post-Modernism (even though I think Foucault is a great thinker in matters of Historiographical methodology, which we can discuss if you want. From watching hours of your videos and reading many of your articles, you appear much more moderate than your tone often suggests, and for that reason I think it is unfortunate the Right has bee trying to claim you for their own. As you said, Left and Right necessary for the balance of society. My best to you sir, and keep up with the great videos.

  10. "You don't actually exist until you have your own words." – Boom! Headshot. Brilliant. Think about that statement from sentience perspective. If all you do is parrot someone else's words/ideology – you really DON'T exist. Your an extension of someone else. . . .

  11. So the figure of Jesus on the mount has Clint Eastwood superimposed. Yup, I love Clint..but amazing how there is no discussion as to the offensiveness of this. It upsets me at a Christian..but I am also a huge free speech supporter. The real issue is inconsistency and selective outrage. If it was Mohammad, well..we know what would happen next. Christianity has been marked as acceptable for public blasphemy.

  12. I have to say that it has been really hard speaking the truth, holding on to a positive direction and avoiding lies since age of 19 or so. But 13 years later, it definitely pays off. You can notice things definitely shift around you. I have to read those books.

  13. And He said to Them:
    " Which of You shall have a friend and go to him @ midnight and say to him
    " Friend"(?) For in Them the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled, which says:
    " Hearing you will hear and shall not understand, And seeing you will see and not perceive", for the hearts of this people have grown dull. And the king was sorry ! Nevertheless, because of the oaths and because of Those who sat with Him, he commanded to be given to " her".
    And He said to Her,
    " Daughter, be of good cheer.. your faith has made you well. Go in peace.".. and having been perfected, He became the author of eternal salvation to all who obeyed Him, called by God the high priest, of whom we have much to say and hard to explain, since you have become dull of hearing..
    (( I thank God for you every day , but not because it is written, for you we die daily :))

  14. Dr Peterson thank you for the lectures and videos . I wonder if possible any subtitles in Spanish with your foresight to keep the message intact.

  15. I hope i'm not the only one who has a hard time understanding what he's saying some of the time. For example, just before halfway in to the video he anwsers the question of what is good in life with saying that which is good for you, your family ect. I'm so confused by this. Why does he describe good as good. And I don't think it gets any clearer by his following statements.

  16. Could not help but smile at the fact that the picture at 11:59 is from the list of biblical references, the next step of which is the (similar looking, just red) visualization of its thousands of contradictions.

    The good thing being that this means he actually gave these a thought, as one would expect of him. Which makes it more puzzling, however, that he still identifies as a Christian (from what I gathered so far) even though he talks and knows a lot about people's mechanisms to cope with the world and the need for archetypes and mythologies.

  17. Regarding the carmina burana clip, if you read the complete lyrics it seems clear that by "you are changeable" it is not meant that a person can change it but that fortune is chaotic. Or did i misunderstand the point you were trying to make?

  18. I love this pictue of Clint Eastwood dressed as Chist. Has anyone a link to this hi-res picture? I want to print it and hang on the wall.

  19. Right at 15:00 where Jordan speaks about speaking in your own words was absolutely spot on. He could not have explained the feeling you get when your "parroting" peoples beliefs that aren't your own, or lying, better than he did in this video. This man is absolutely brilliant.

  20. I have watched a number of videos of Jordan Peterson, I think he is more often right than wrong, which I do not say lightly, he is also more often right than left, which I say with the tongue in my cheek. I didn't watch more videos for some long time, because I think I got the core message, and I have a "room" to clean and no time for videos. Nonetheless, I got here trying to do a recommendation and I was shocked by the amount of "chaos" in that room. Really, shocked, I had to comment. I'm still trying to assimilate that information.


  22. "I don't think you should trust people whose primary goal when they're attempting to change the world for the better is to attempt to change other people". By that logic we shouldn't trust Jordan Peterson either :O "You can always tell who those people are because they're looking for ,,,, perpetrators and victims and going off to stop the perpetrators."

  23. Fantastic stuff but where Jordan Peterson has a blind spot , in my opinion, is the impact of a corrupted 20th and 21st Century Capitalism which started off as an ideal with Voltaire, Adam Smith, Hume et al who rightly saw it as an immense advance in terms of prosperity and the potential to encourage individual freedom and which quickly turned into an exploitative system that required (and still requires) at the very least, a radical overhaul because it doesn't serve the individual freedom anymore than does Marxism.
    I have great admiration for Dr Peterson's work and thinking which I hope will influence and assist young people to help the human world to be less awful, and assist in reducing unnecessary suffering, but would caution against accepting his thought uncritically,and particular his use ( elsewhere) of the concept of hierarchy ( i.e that we need the best people at the the top.This is an idea that originated as far as I can recall from the Greek Philosopher Plato) I don't disagree with him in principle, but he uses the concept rather simplistically to justify( or at least he does so by implication) the rights of those in power. Unfortunately, those in power, or in positions of authority have rarely got there wholly through individual excellence ,effort or merit ( there are a minority of honourable exceptions as always) but rather by way of birth into the right situation and patronage or by brute force at the expense of many others, and they tend to protect their pyramid positions with lethal force.Let us not forget Generals Franco and Pinochet amongst many others on the 'right' defending their own versions of capitalism against 'socialists and anarchists'. They were every bit as unpleasant as Stalin or Mao, although they didn't succeed in killing as many because they had fewer people to play with.
    This misuse of authority and power through the ages explains the resentment which gives rise to social unrest and movements ( in my country) like the Chartists , Suffragrettes and Trade Unions who eventually changed society for the better through collective action.The challenge usually comes from the'' left' because the challenges from the 'right' are usually internecine struggles between those already in power.
    In his address to the Oxford Union in 2018 Dr Peterson gave a masterful explanation of left and right but something in him seems to shy away from the communal as something suspect and in which individuality is dissolved in some Orwellian Nightmare and in which the current Western Liberal Socialism ( as opposed to exploitative capitalism) is still too collective.

    Having had some experience of Buddhist teaching there may be a way out of gets very far on their road without 'Sangha' / Community and too much emphasis on the individual is another road to hell.The 'economic' system, which Adam Smith and Karl Marx studied and came up with their ideologies has changed profoundly , and is producing a world where true individuality is being be dissolved and any true community eroded.
    Good Luck Millenials!

  24. Prf. peterson
    The problem with the argument that rationale brings stability is that it is not real because if there is no power behind it authorities and string pullers could crush it
    Say the fox steals Pinocchio by force even though he chooses not to go to pleasure island

  25. It would be really productive if Peterson could discuss the click-bait titles where Peterson (schools, takes down, owns, destroys). It seems to me these post’s titles, most often from right-wingers and not Jordan himself are contrary to his message. Please “like” if you agree.

    PS I posted here because this is NOT one of those click-bait titles.

  26. How can this content be here, online, FOR FREE? I’m serious. Its value is crazy and i’m watching this lecture at home. This is simply amazing. Thanks Jordan, you are the man.

  27. so basically to change the world properly you need to stop being a marxist and to strengthen yourself. the best thing i can save from the video is the name of Solzhenitsyn

  28. so i wonder if the UNCONSCIOUS desire to produce suffering where it isn't necessary is considered evil? if not, what is that!? also, according to this definition of evil we would definitely have to define "necessary" and that opens a vast universe of alternate definitions of evil. oh well… words and ideas are an interminable rabbit hole… :/

  29. What is the artwork at 10:29? Is it a series of concentric circles-representing the “good”, ultimately encompassing the world with a pathway to “heaven”.

  30. Great work as usual

    I'm scared of doing this program, I see failure as weakness instead of an opportunity to learn and improve, keeping things vague helps, no clear goal equals no clear failure, so everything becomes a gray area

    Time to get cracking.

  31. Just like J. Cole said, "What good is taking over when we know whatchu gon do. The real only real revolution happens right inside of you."

  32. I was wondering why Millennials are so closed minded recently. I try to talk to them, as I am one and I get the exact same MSM responses. No facts, just regurgitating remarks.
    I'm so disappointed. When did they start latching on to corporate news outlets?

  33. I think that Russian language is certainly adding up to the power of Russian writers. I speak Kazakh, Russian, English and French, and it seems to me that Russian language is the most flexible language, where each word can be put in like 10 different places in a sentence. So it’s like, where English is just a statue, Russian is like an action toy with each body part flexible and movable. Interesting

  34. Hi all,
    I really enjoy listening to Jordan. Even when I honestly disagree, I still feel that the struggle to construct my thoughts in a well organized way rewards me with clarity and focus. Let me give an example.
    At 8:40 Jordan says: "Evil is the conscious desire to produce suffering where suffering is not necessary." In my opinion, this may be true in many cases, but not all. That is because evil can also be the conscious desire to produce pleasure where suffering is necessary. And if we ask ourselves: is suffering necessary at all? Then my answer would be yes, development and growth in consciousness are built upon pain, suffering and the lessons of the past – as this lecture explains.
    So that still leaves the question open: What is evil? We know within us in everyday life if something is good and right or evil, but is rather hard to give it a word definition.
    Regards and thank you

  35. Btw ; WHERE WAS JORDAN PETERSON WHEN I WAS YOUNGER!? I didn't have any proper life-changing guidance. You lucky bastards…

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  37. I’m an elder millennial and fellow Albertan,

    I was gifted your book this Christmas and have always been opposed to “don’t take this in the wrong way” self-help books. I was opposed because I feel that I have a strong meaning of my life and don’t need help in defining that. I decided to do my research on you prior to reading it. After reading the Foreword and Overture of your book “12 Rules for Life and Antidote to Chaos” and discovering your Wikipedia page; which then found me finding your YouTube channel…. I stumbled across this post. I can say that I’m intrigued…

    I’ve yet to read your twelve rules/views but I’d like to thank you so far based on what I’ve read of your book and listened to of your post. It’s helped me to question certain aspects that I perceive in my life.

    It’s already made me question Being vs purposeless which I then view based on how I as a human survive and thrive framing that around needs and wants. I am a Millennial, and I believe wants are just as important as needs. I decided to ask myself some simple questions which I answered on “how I believe I can start to change the world…properly”

    Q: What do humans need to survive?

    A: Necessities

    Q: What do humans need to thrive?

    A: Relationships

    Q: What do humans want to survive?

    A: Betterment

    Q: What do humans want to thrive?

    A: Meaning

    What I learned so far in life is that each person could have different questions and answers but as long as there is a being with a positive purpose to life…that’s how we can change the world properly.

    Anyways; thanks again for striking a nerve and putting out content that is enlightening. I’m looking forward to reading the rest of your book.

  38. I hear your message and am digesting it.

    To follow the footsteps of Christ, i must first build myself up so that i am a strong individual that is able to influence the world positively.

    Because as i am right now, weak and vulnerable, any action i take will not have my desirable impact.

    Makes sense. as the meme suggest, bUt aM i gOnNa?. This really challenges what i am and what i stand for right now. It breaks me down and forces me to face myself.

    The values and virtues i stand for rest on my willingness to shoulder burden/responsibility.

    Fuck me right in the lazy.

  39. Does anyone know what symphonic orchestra piece is playing in the middle of this video? I’d love to listen to the whole thing

  40. I don't know how I ran across this video but THIS is a man of Wisdom and I wish people like him were teaching in our Colleges instead of the Marxist Puppets for the "Elite". I always speak truthfully to the best of my ability. I've read all these authors!! Oh I hope young men and women watching this read those books!

  41. Our generation clearly needs some sort of a direction — we need to find meaning in life and in suffering. Your words clear paths, Sir. Thank you for your wisdom, Dr. Jordan Peterson. My perspective in life gradually changed after I found and listened to your lectures. I'm a 23 year old little lady from the Philippines, an artist. May you continue to touch many more lives! God bless you!

  42. Well yes the Marxists have done more wrongs than rights but some important social policies were created by them (not necessarily the Soviet Union but also by the pressure built by Communists in Western Europe), like a national free healthcare system or a educational system. Those are policies that are considered socialist but are used in most of the countries with a substantial hdi

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  44. I’m curious about Jordan Peterson’s thoughts on how society has gone from being based in agricultural farming to being based on information farming, and how these changes will effect the psychological values of growing up in the modern era. I have noticed that families, 100 years ago, were formed to help and continue the family itself, the larger unit, and now it seems that families are formed so individuals can fulfill a biological duty or psychological need – people want children (or they don’t), but when they have them, the family’s life is dedicated to improving the child’s life – when before, people had children to advance the family’s goals and well-being. More kids meant more help on the farm, etc. these days it means more mouths to feed… and more colleges to save for…

  45. Gracias, por ser la persona más sensata que he visto en el último tiempo, no sólo porque comparta las ideas que pregona, sino también por demostrar que independientemente de lo que se considere "bueno" siempre van a pesar más los hechos.

  46. This is what got me to pay attention to JBP. That phrase "highest conceivable good" came right when I had a revelation of what was naturally calling me to do, how I had been wandering since. The wandering was not bad, the way I responded to it, even disaster, made me capable and stronger, to endure, and have low expectations for reality. Not pessimism or nihilism, but to be realistic about what is likely to happen and what can be done. JBP's philosophy coming to prominence and unfolding directly paralleled where I was, even though generally I'd attained my own independence at a young age by then, there was still the world to confront and the challenge of living by my own morals when so many people resist and don't even realize the extent to which they create the majority of their own suffering. Just by willingness to surrender to experiencing what is happening, to acknowledge it is reality, is the majority of liberation.

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