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Can Israelis and Palestinians See Eye to Eye? || Creators for Change

Can Israelis and Palestinians See Eye to Eye? || Creators for Change

– Because A, it’s not your land;
B, you mentioned Jerusalem– – Listen, you can’t tell me that.
Please don’t say that. – When it comes to the
Israeli-Palestinian conflict, I think I’m mostly emotionally sad. – I think it’s not fair that, you
know, a country that is peaceful be in a situation where
we have to be threatened. – Being an Arab girl living
inside of the Israeli state, it’s pretty hard for me to
find exactly who I am. – We’re the Palestinians. We still live under occupation,
so we have no power. – I believe that every person,
Jew, Christian, Muslim, should be full equal citizens
under Israeli sovereignty. – We need just to end
this conflict between us. It’s because we don’t need the other
generations to live the life that we live in. – If we continue to do
what we did until now, it’s probably going to stay, and
we need to do something else. – My name is Hannah Ziad. I’m 24 years
old and I’m an Arabian YouTuber. – My name is Dorit Tzadon. I’m 25 years old and I’m
a Jewish Israeli Zionist. – My name is Bara’a abdo. I’m from Nablus, 25 years old, studied
public relations and communications. – My name is Tchelet Zohar. I’m from a small town called Giv’at
Ze’ev right outside of Jerusalem, and I’m 24 years old. – My name is Arab al-Ameen. I’m 24
years old and I’m from Jerusalem. – My name is Ran Bar-Yoshafat. I’m 34 years old, and I
work as a deputy director of a think-tank that deals
with law and economics. – Can I have my Israelis on the left,
my Palestinians on the right. – The first statement is: someone I know has died because of this conflict – Okay, my father was
murdered by two IDF soldiers. It hit us hard, especially for my family. We’re only girls, and inside of the
Arabic nation, that’s really hard. – My friend, when I was 10 years old,
an Israeli sniper shot her in the head. So, that was really hard for us. – I grew up during
the Second Intifada. I carry a list with me of all my friends
who were murdered in terror attacks. So I have a list of 27 people, they
were actually very close to me. In Israel, we have a memorials day,
so I have always a dilemma to which grave to go to. – On the 16th of January, 2007, an Israeli
soldier shot and killed my sister, Abeer . She was 10 years old, in front
of her school, and I was 13. We were six kids in the house. After that, we became two
sisters and three brothers. – All of the people that I know have
lost someone to the war in some way, and I think like grief is
such a universal emotion. And like, i really, I want to hug all of you. – I served in the IDF. I still serve in the Army Reserves Combat. I was very combat, in the Second Intifada and I feel your grief and I understand it. But I have to say that I never got an order to shoot someone, the order was only to shoot if someone is a threat to your life or a threat to someone else’s life. – I also served in the IDF and they really do just teach us to defend ourselves. If we’re not defending ourselves, and we do kill someone, we go to jail. – That’s not true. that’s not true – I can tell you something? The soldier that killed my sister, he didn’t spend one day in jail. – Neither did my father both of them that murdered him did not stay one day in jail. -I believe a two- state solution is possible – Okay, I think the Palestinian, they will not stop saying that we want, we want a country so in the end, if we got to the point that we have our state and they have their state, so no problem. – This is gonna be better for us to live all of us together which is no state like Palestinian and no state like Israeli, only together and having peace together like there is no walls and there is no checkpoints which is happening right now. – I’m with you one state under Israel’s sovereignty and everyone’s full equal citizen. – Alright, okay, but under Israeli sovereignty because right now I… why is that a problem? – Why should it be on one? Why should one religion control it? why can’t the three? – It’s not a religion, It’s a nationality. It’s my nationality – So if we said we want a state with the Palestinian, the Palestinian they control it, you can live under it? – No, because – So.. – Because A: it’s not your land and B: you
mentioned you- – Listen, you can tell me that please. (all speaking at the same time) – Saying a hundred percent Palestine used to (inaudible). – Okay, I can ask you one question, please? Answer it. Your a great, great grand grandfather, you know where he is? – Yes. – Where he is? – How many graves you want me to count? – Seven before. – Seven before I know. Yes – Where? – Well, seven before is in in Hungary. – In Hungary (repeated). – Nine before is in Palestine. Don’t tell me “it’s not your land” – I’m saying it’s not your land. – It’s OUR land and it will stay and will be – Like how do you determine this is our land and it’s not their land based on what? – History, international law, interest, solidarity. – Yes. How about empathy? – I-I have empathy, I’m just not willing to live– to give up on my identity in what I believe is mine. – I’m afraid of the other side. – When I say that I’m afraid, what I basically mean is I’m afraid of going into Gaza because I know that if I will go into Gaza, I might get shot. Someone might kill me. – I think I hesitated a little bit because I don’t think I’m afraid of the people on the other side, I think I’m afraid of the gap and sort of almost equally afraid of like, you know, that side taking all of the responsibility for what is happening, or this side taking all of the responsibility for what is happening, which is obviously not working. – Well, that’s fair enough. I don’t believe that all Palestinians are terrorists because that doesn’t make sense, but I do believe that who is in charge, they’re leading the Palestinians to.. you know hating us and in a way that you know it is really unfair. – I’m against–against what you said, they’re not that Islam, because Islam didn’t, didn’t say kill—killing people or having a blood, don’t believe that. -What about the radical Muslims– the radical Muslims that come and do these things what do you have to say? – They’re not part of us, we never accept them as Muslims because they’re teaching hate, and in a way I accepted what you just said about there’s a big problem with our governments. They don’t know how to talk to each other and in my idea I really think the people are the ones that should be talking to each other. – I agree and I have to say also don’t think there’s an issue with Muslims But I disagree with you about the fact it’s about plans. There are several peace talks. They were offered 97 percent of the land 98 would have done it. They they disagree- – But after deciding with the land they came and they built more settlements. – What’s wrong with-what’s wrong with Jews living in Judea? – That’s not the problem, the problem is, is that we actually talked about this land being for these people and in the end, what we see Israelis coming in and actually building houses that’s showing us we don– you guys don’t want peace. – I trust my sources of information on the conflict. – I serve in the IDF so first of all, I trust myself and my officers. I do think that a lot of the information I’m getting is not accurate which is why I’ve tried to compare it with different sources and I also try to see it from from people, what they think, what they feel . – I don’t trust everything I see on the news that’s for sure. I do believe again there are two sides to every single story but I do see things that are happening for instance you know, things like the rockets that are striking or the stabs that are happening Those things I do trust, because I can see that they’re happening, and they’re just unfair. – Like I see the-the narrative being written as like, I watch the TV. I know how important and how powerful language is, and how it can create uhm, reality. And, like I, I can see it–like this is really dangerous like, on both sides it’s really dangerous – If you see this media that I see, they’re always against Israel for things that are not necessarily our fault. -I find it very funny because we look at it as and start saying that they’re really with Israel, which is funny I find it kind of funny. But no, I seriously do find the information that we’re getting has more as an agenda to it from both sides – I don’t believe in social media like from the Israeli side I’m gonna support Israel, and from the Palestinian side, going to support Palestinians, people going to be very confused and I’m gonna be very confused about the reality. – So, the same–the question was the sources so it doesn’t have to be just social media, and the reports like this, like I also trust the reports that the Israeli security forces publish -but they are– -don’t trust everything- -right in their ideas- not about the reality and the situation but their ideas, how do they are see this situation? It’s not really what happened I want political leaders on my side to make compromises for peace. – If we continue to do what we did until now, it’s going to continue as it was now and I don’t see it getting better. Our leaders should have our lives and the best for us in their minds and so it’s not compromising, like peace is never compromising. – The Palestinian politician, in the end they want peace, for their selves and for the people. But they have no power, because the power, it’s not in their hand. It’s the in the other side. – I would like for us to compromise only if you will be able to compromise. It doesn’t make sense that every time that we have a war, it’s always started by your side. The other day I just heard about, you know, over a thousand eight hundred (1,800) acres of crops have been burnt by you know, Hamas, who have been sending it over to Israel.Instead of you know, spending all that money in order to ruin us Why don’t they spend it on taking care of a Palestine? – It’s,one second, you’re talking about Hamas. You’re talking about the Gaza. Gaza, it’s so far from us we don’t know what’s going on over there. We don’t know–if you can ask me about the West Bank, I’m going to answer and I think you as well. – But here’s the way I see it when you’re talking about compromise: Hamas is a charter that says murder to the Jews wherever they are in the in the PA -hold on (x3) – But the PA are the moderates – You’re going back to Hamas- – But the PA that– – We are not talking about- -The Palestinian Authority– – Let me finish! It was the (Palestinian) authority that are the moderates, they’re saying it’s a death sentence if you sell your house to a Jew Are there racist people in Israel, of course, are racist people everywhere in the world? Yes, but we condemn people who are acting violently and the other side glorifies them – Violence is sometimes justified. – No… I don’t know…. – If you’re going to attack Israel. Then Israel is going to defend themselves. And that means when it comes to certain things, maybe not you, specifically, but again, to the radical Muslims, we have to, because if we don’t then there’s not going to be a state of Israel anymore. – I don’t think it’s a matter of Israeli, Arabs or Jews, Christians. Sometimes we have to use violence. I hope it’ll be close to zero as possible, but if I see someone about to murder someone else and I think it’s okay for me to use violence to stop that. I think violence is not allowed for a political goal. I think that’s a bad place to use violence I prefer talking and having a discourse. – Okay, I didn’t grow up with with a lot of violence.with the zero violence, but what I want to say the same as you said Who comes to my house to break the door to take my father? Of course, I will defense for myself so it’s called violence, but I wanted defense for myself – First of all, I am against violence 100% It’s a freaking circle It’s going to keep on happening over and over again – For me, if you’re gonna react for the violence with violence so here we go. We’re having like the same problems the same generation who is raised with hatred and violence and blood which is not acceptable. – Having a homeland for my people is important to me. – I think that Israel needs to be our homeland because if we won’t have a homeland no one else is going to accept us anywhere else, especially because there’s a lot of racism and antisemitism as well, so if we’re not gonna be here, where are we gonna go? – Okay, for me as a Muslim, the Holy Land, why it’s so important, first of all, because I was born here I have no place that I don’t replace – Every single person around the world has the right to live in the place that they were born in, and that the right for Palestinians also for if we’re gonna talk about refugees also they have the right to come back here to their lands to their homes and have their places. – The fact that we came back to our homeland and that we do have a country and a government here, for me, like, it does feel like a miracle… But I also think that the fact that we do have the power now gives us more responsibility, and that we can’t just base it on the fact that it’s our homeland and not hear other voices saying, “We feel the same about the same place,” – I often question my place in this conflict. – All the time I question if it’s more dialogue, more force, more conversations, more social media. I always ask myself What is the best thing? I tend to believe that the best thing is human interaction. – A lot of times I take a step back from like the political argument about the conflict and all of that, just because I feel like unworthy, and that I don’t know enough. – So, in my way I’ve always known what I am in this conflict, I always knew I wanted to fight for peace. That’s all I knew and that’s all I will ever know I never was in the idea of this conflict until my father passed away and then I had to think for myself. – I-I always was asking my father why I was born and and, his answer, “Not to kill, to live, to be in life.” and when my sister, she got killed, I went back to him, to tell him, he told me I was born to live, not to kill, but my sister she was born to die. The Palestinian, they didn’t kill six million Israelis, and the Israelis still didn’t kill six million Palestinian there is a Germanian (German) Embassy in Tel Aviv and there is a German Israeli embassy in Germany So… It’s a big hole, it’s always gives me hope when I’m looking at this and thinking a little bit about this. – I gotta say I think it’s, it’s nice slogans. They just I don’t think that’s the case. Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt because Egypt was willing to have peace with Israel, Israel has a peace treaty with Jordan because the Jordanians were willing to have a peace treaty with Israel. – Also from one to one, it’s different how the way you think- –I agree, which is exactly why I don’t believe in in a peace between the two sides because in my understanding of reality, the whole concept of Palestinian Nationality– – Because you don’t accept Palestinians.. – I accept human beings, I’m saying that the whole concept of Palestinian’s Nationality is one goal. And that is the annihilation of Israel. When Jordan took over Judea and Samaria,when Egypt took over Gaza– no one asked for a Palestinian– -but you’re combining everyone, you’re combining everyone into one ideology which is not right–Why, what do you mean? You’re saying that because they’re Palestinian, this is what they want, which is not true. – I take it back. The Palestinian government, the Palestinian Authority. – There. Now I understand better. – I agree it’s different Okay, because I don’t refer to the Arabs as being, in some areas, Palestinians; I refer to them as Arabs of Judea Samaria. – If we were gonna live long long age or long years, we’re going to see, we’re gonna see each other. We–we–we’re going to have it. – You can have it – No, I’m talking about peace. We’re gonna have it here. – I would like to sit down and share a meal with everyone here. – Yes, please – Sure (laughing) – Hello – I’m Johnny… – Hi Johnny – I’m Ido – HI Ido – Shalom al salam alikum There’s, on top, some passion fruit juice which gives a kick So, how was the experience guys? – For me it was perfect, was good and it was a good meeting – It was topsy turvy. It was upside down – The beginning, yeah Because like you don’t know who is in front of you, you don’t know their ideas, their ideology, what they think about you – I think we did come to some sort of an agreement that we both do want peace so– -no, not everyone, I want security, freedom, and prosperity – You’re talking about legal peace. – I don’t want a piece of paper that says “Peace”. I want to live in peace. I don’t want a piece of paper says we have a peace treaty. – That’s what we meant as well. – Okay but we don’t agree because I don’t believe in a Palestinian state, and you think you should have like a two-state solution so we don’t agree. – No, but we did say we wanted a one-state solution. – Israel with everyone equal, I’m fine with it. – Exactly – Well, I learned from you that you have a lot of sympathy for our side as well, even though your sister passed away, which is terrible. She didn’t pass away she was murdered, but I can see that you also have sympathy for the other side and you actually are trying to, you know, communicate with us even though you went through everything that you had to go through on your end. And I definitely learned that we can learn to love your side as well, or I could learn to love your side as well. – I think this is the main point for our, maybe, conflict–that we do not hear from each other So I think it’s important to hear from each other not just keep your thoughts and ideas inside your head and don’t try to open this box. Just try to open it. – We want really similar things, uhm, Yeah, and it sort of, you feel like you know, my friends from back home and so the realization that we do have the same sort of language not in like the language that we speak but in our body language and the things that interest us and the future that we hold for ourselves and for our families Like there are no sides. Like I can’t draw a line and say okay, I’m like these people or I’m with these people – Hey guys This is Jason – And this is John, – And just want to say thank you so much for watching a really special episode of middle ground We love this series because it’s an opportunity now more than ever to create great dialogue and create radical empathy – This was a challenge, but also a privilege to get to go to Jerusalem to film this dialogue around a subject that is, you know, very tricky and very difficult but we loved having the challenge – Totally. We want to say a huge shout out to YouTube and Created for Change which gave us the resources and the support to do this, and we’d love to hear your thoughts. Let us know what you thought about the episode and the various perspectives in the comments below and also let us know what other suggestions for middle ground you have. We want to do more episodes even bigger and even better. – Yeah, and as always, please be sure to click Subscribe and follow us on Instagram (together) Thanks you guys, later.

100 comments on “Can Israelis and Palestinians See Eye to Eye? || Creators for Change

  1. Thank you so much to YouTube for making it possible to produce this important episode of Middle Ground. We want to say thank you to our participants but also to our audience for always enabling respectful and meaningful conversation in our comments. We know this discussion does not address all aspects or perspectives of this very deep and historical conflict, but we did our best to represent as many perspectives as we could. For those of you that don’t know, Jubilee's philosophy for Middle Ground is to bring people together and have an open dialogue in order to develop a deeper sense of understanding and empathy. We hope you all enjoy 🙂 If you felt as moved as we did by the conversation, please share the video to as many people as you can!

  2. I know nothing about this issue but I literally hate the man in the suit because he has no emotion towards the Palestinians

  3. Revelation 2:9 and 3:9. You are not the Jews, and the ones that have scattered around the four corners of the earth are revealing themself which are the “blacks”. This is end time prophesy

  4. I m so sorry but i m from Europe exspecaly Lithuania and i don't understand this situacion and way are they mad at each ather? Can someone exsplane?

  5. I’m a Palestinian and would love peace and some land for my country and that Israeli guy was being foolish but there’s no hate I know there’s a solution for Israel having a heart just I don’t like war and I keep hearing again and again sorry Isrelians and have a great day and we would love land in the south and I’m from hebron

  6. History made it clear that Israel doesn’t exist and it was forced therefore there is a land called Palestine long before.

  7. I just want all of you to remember that each one of these people speaks for themselves, and themselves only. And therefore thinking that every person of that individual's nationality thinks the same as them, is incorrect.

    I'm an Israeli, and I can tell you that innocent people die on both sides. It doesn't matter if they're soliders, brothers, sisters or anyone else for that matter.
    Does it matter which side looses it's people? I don't think it does really.
    Have a nice day, and if you are tired of comments like these, maybe just stop watching videos about controversial topics 😉

  8. Everyone is complaining about the guy in the suit but the Israeli girl with dark hair was the most frustrating to me

  9. I'm so sad for the palestenian guy. I'm actually gonna cry.
    But, with all due respect, if the producers were fair, they would bring a israeli who suffered a family loss as a result of the conflict Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
    And believe me it wouldn't be hard to find someone like that, and it's so sad.
    And even sadder is that you don't even know it.

  10. I must confess, I was touched by everyone there except the taller man. He just angered me with his ingnorance. His slogan is, "I want peace, but only under my terms". I feel sorry for people who want peace and have to deal with people like him.

  11. Everyone here is talking about how much the Palestinian guy lost and how little the Israeli lost. The Palestinian guy SUPPORTS the government that caused this war and Israelis could do nothing but defend themselves from extremely violent and aggressive neighboring countries.

  12. It sucks that everyone was chill but Ran. Tchelet was amazing though. She was so open minded and really just wants peace.

  13. I’m not even Muslim and I know that Islam means peace because my Muslim friends tell me since they know Arabic

  14. Im from indonesia and i will always stand with palestine,just like the first president of indonesian said(Soekarno) indonesia cant fell freedom if we let palestine still on collonialism

  15. I'm Mexican and don't have a side in this conflict. But after hearing the man in suit talk, I felt like punching him through my screen.

  16. That Israeli girl should really educate herself more.. she just seems like a hypocrite asking others to compromise but least willing to do so herself if and when needed.
    And damn that suit guy is seriously closed minded and so unempathetic. I feel bad because for people like him with those mindsets cause such horrific outcomes to human kind.

  17. as there are not so many muslims here i want to tell you something our Holy prophet PBUH said that isreali state will not only cover palestine but also egypt syria lebanon jordan saudia arabia except makka madina so it will happen what ever we do

  18. Almost all my family is in the idf yet they want everything for everyone that was discussed In this plus I’m a Jew and all my family has very close Palestinian friends and the radical organizations have nothing to do with the whole of Palestine

  19. This honestly makes me sad. It’s all because of religion. If everyone just lived on one big island and all believe in the same think will be happy

  20. arab is such an angel. i can see how he holds his patience even when some of the israelis say the most upsurd things

    he is so pure and i hope he always stays safe and his family too. that man in the suit is the most deluded man i have ever heard speak in my life. he is an entire contrast to an "empathetic" individual. bless him.

  21. arab is definitely born to live and he carries so much patience, strength an greatness within him. the way he held himself together when she said that he is empathetic towards israelis.

  22. israel is never a state and will never be one. when will this conflict ever end? i, as a muslim, am very heartbroken seeing the palestinians not having power over anything. is there any way we can change this?

  23. I really wanna learn about their history .. Cuz I really luv isreal but then we have Palestine ??

  24. This is by far the best one. I hope one day we really can live in peace all men and women globally. Starting with Israel and Palestine.

  25. Middle ground for what exactly?? As if the Israelies were ever serious about peace.
    Israel was, is, and will always be an aggressor, repressor, thief, and racist entity. Dont dream of a peace that would be achieved in Palestine as long as this cancerous object planted by the British is remaining.
    All respect and love to the Jews as fellow human beings, but Israelis, you will get nothing but hate and rejection.

  26. This is a perfect example of the simple mind of humankind. I dont believe in God, of any form, but if you did, would he/she/they/it REALLY condone the murder and abuse of others humans over it, or land??? If so, maybe that's an even better reason to leave religion behind. We need to treat each other with dignity, respect, and fairness, and then you'll all achieve the afterlife you're seeking. Even more importantly, you'll enjoy this brief miracle we call life. GET OVER YOURSELVES.

  27. Some people arbitrarily told the dude in the suit that the land was his and he really thinks that entitles him to lord over the people they ripped it from

  28. I'm from Israel and I have to say that the suit guy is very radical in his opinions and very close minded, it's almost like he is brainwashed, I think they shouldn't have picked him to represent Israel because he is comparable in his hostility to the people living in Gaza who are being brainwashed to hate.
    I think that kids should be taught to love and not to hate and it's only the radicals in each side which are preventing peace.
    Also props to the Israeli girls and the Palestinians for being more open minded and more mature than the suit guy.

  29. Comment1: suits are bad because Trump sorta

    Comment2: and that guy had a sister and looked super sad

    No one: I came here to be less biased.

  30. Where else in the Middle East besides Israel can the Muslim blonde girl have the freedom to dress like that in public?

  31. I'm a Christian and I dont support zionist Israel because prophecy says God will establish Israel not the United States

  32. Peace actually can be granted. Theres no win win solution. But lose lose solution. But the talks need for sure as long israel wish to do that.

  33. The fact is (zionists) took over with the help of europ and america. And to be honest me as a muslim you can have you f…. peace of land stik it up you … there is nothing there 80% comes from over seas. Life on your Mountain and stay on your mountain and by the way why talk with people that beleef that its there land because its in the tora. Biljon muslims and 50.000 jews i feel sorry for them i hoop the christians wil keep helping you because if they stop your fucked!!!!!

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