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Day 2 Wrap Up | DockerCon 2017

Day 2 Wrap Up | DockerCon 2017

>>Voiceover: Live from Austin, Texas, it’s the CUBE. Covering DockerCon 2017. Brought to you by Docker in support from its ecosystem partners.>>Hi I’m Stu Miniman
here with the final wrap with Jim Kobielus at DockerCon 2017. The CUBE’s really
excited that we were here for the third year. Have
to have a big shout out to our partners and our sponsors
that allow us to be here. Of course, Docker’s been
a great partnership. They talk a lot about ecosystem, really bringing some media
people like ourselves giving us some of the great speakers from their company, the partner ecosystem and their customers, and the sponsors for the show, for ourselves, App Lariat, CISCO, Iguazio, Skelety,
Cononical, and Red Hat. Without them we couldn’t
bring you this programming. Really excited to be able to be here. They’re starting to
tear down the show here, so not a lot of time, so
many things to dock to.>>The show itself is containerized.>>We’re not even going to be able to talk about the Franklin’s barbeque.>>You just did.>>But Jim … Absolutely.
Jim, you’ve gotten to be on the CUBE here, see some of the show. Give us your quick hits.>>Sure.>>on your takeaways from the show.>>First of all, my first takeaway is this is a vibrant
developer ecosystem, clearly. This show is much larger than
the year before, and the year before that. It’ll probably
be twice as large next year. That’s my prediction
based on the sheer amount of developers migrating
into the Docker ecosystem because so many
organizations are Dockerizing their applications,
containerizing their applications. That’s a huge focus for me
and Wikibon, as an analyst, is the containerization
of application development with microservices and all that, for cloud deployment and multi-clouds, hot, hot, hot across all
niches. So, vibrant ecosystem. Docker as the core solution-provider and the centerpiece of this
community. Amazing show. The Enterprise Edition, of course, that preceded the announcement of that and the release preceded this show. That’s critically
important in getting Docker into new accounts that, with a full stack. Clearly it’s enterprise ready. Developers, more developers
will be exposed to Docker through the EE. Docker, at this show, had a couple of really
important announcements for developers. Moby. Project Moby, for customization of
container images and so forth, clearly that’s going to
be a multiplier effect on the ecosystem of
developers, ISVs and so forth, Building applications, and
customizing containerized Docker applications and images for a wide range of opportunities.>>Yeah, Jim, just want to
comment on the Moby piece here ’cause it was really interesting. I think the last couple of
years, it’s been that pull and tug as to what was
the open-source piece, what is the company itself doing, and I think it’s clarifying.
Kubernetes is a big rising tide in the environment, and all
they cared about is they’ve got the open-source pieces
that they need to be able to do Kubernetes. So, with
Moby Project it’s like okay, now I understand what’s out and open. I understand what Docker’s doing. I saw some humility from Solomon Hykes, talking, it’s like we’re listening. We’re working, you know,
ecosystem, ecosystem, ecosystem. So it was good to see that maturity. I mean, there were some
people that I talk to, and they’re like, “Oh, will
this be the last DockerCon?” I’m like, “I don’t think
anybody watching this show would say that coming out.”
As you said, I expect the show to grow; it’s doing really well.>>Solomon’s totally
partner-focused. Look at him.>>Kudos to what they’re doing. The partners are excited.
It’s not just lip service. “Oh yeah. We did some little
announcement on the side.” No. We’re excited. This is there. I know you’ve got a bunch of
pieces, but I want to ask you, are developers excited
about taking this legacy …>>There’s lots of news
I’m going to analyze.>>Legacy applications, and
like helping to move those in, or they only want to work
on the cool new stuff?>>Oh, that’s a huge theme. MTA. I forget what exactly
the acronym stands for, but it’s wrapping legacy
applications, containerizing them in the Docker ecosystem.
That is so important so all of these legacy applications will be Dockerized before
long, and refactored, in addition to all the
Greenfield development of containerized applications. So the MTA announcement, just as critical as the Moby announcement
and so forth in terms, and EE as part of the
show, of getting Docker, getting their ecosystem,
getting developers working in this environment,
more and more developers. This entire Docker, this entire ecosystem has a magnetic force on the
developer community, or will. Those are very important. Also
I thought the announcements with Microsoft, in terms
of containers are going into Windows in a larger way,
Linux containers and so forth, that also, ’cause Microsoft
has a huge presence obviously in not only enterprise but
small to midsize businesses. We’re going to see Docker
in ever-smaller deployments, hosts and so forth, across the board. More buyers, in other
words, more companies will be Dockerizing more applications thanks to, in part, Microsoft
as clearly a forerunner.>>Jim, absolutely. I say it
at almost every cloud show. I want to follow the data and I want to follow the applications,
and you had Microsoft and you had Oracle. You
had two of the big players from an application standpoint, Oracle’s now in the Docker store.>>Oracle’s in the Docker
store. That is huge.>>Yeah.>>That has validated
containers and Docker for …>>How about you? From the
data standpoint, I heard, we talked to Iguazio about some of the analytics and things …>>Jim: I’m a data guy, yeah.>>Yeah, you’re a data guy.
What’s a data guy think at a show like this? Is it
too infrastructure-focused, or did you see some of
the data future here?>>No. It’s infrastructure-focused
in the sense that it needs to be to harden this technology for enterprise deployment, but
it’s really dev-ops focused, you know, Kubernetes and
everything, and Swarm and whatnot. Look at all these vendors.
Here are these tools for the dev-ops life cycle,
Kubernetes and everything. That’s really, really important. It’s all about developers
and speeding of development, and putting containerized
Docker applications and images into production, and managing
them and securing them and so forth. Just the
sheer range of dev-ops tools on this show floor that’s
packing up now was amazing. I’m just uncracking my
research here. Very important. So I’m going to wrap up.
So, the adoption is amazing. I mean, all these industries,
including like Visa. We had a swap-meet,
who have adopted Docker into core applications
that they’re running major businesses on. That’s
some serious validation in its own right.>>Jim, one of the feedback I got from, it was actually John White from Expedient.>>Okay.>>talked about, and he said
he deals with kind of small to mid, to little bit large
enterprises, and he said, all that this keynote reminds us of AWS Re:Invent a couple of years ago.>>Oh yeah.>>Big global names. I
mean, it’s, you know, Visa. You know. Around the
globe. Northern Trust. These are not, you know,
your regional companies that did a little initiative.
It’s virtualization started in a lot of small environments. Containerization really
started in the likes of Google. I remember the first DockerCon.
It was Google and Facebook, and they’re the ones that
have been doing these projects pre-Docker, and it’s slowly moving down. Part of the things I look
at is where’s the watermark>>Jim: Yeah.>>Where below this
you’re probably not going to do containers because
you’re going to go live on a platform that leverages container. The service writers I talked to …>>Jim: They’re going to
live in a public cloud like Microsoft, or you know.>>Stu: The cloud guys.
I’m going to go to, right, I’m going to go to Microsoft.
I’m going to go to Oracle.>>Jim: AWS or IBM.>>Stu: I’m going to go AWS.>>Jim: Whoever it might be.>>Right. Any of them because
they’re going to just take care of that, and I won’t care
that it was containerized, so at the end of the
day, it’s not that tool, it’s the wave of that modernization.>>Oh. Yeah, I want to end on a data note because we were talking about data. Okay. I thought Iguazio, I
thought Yaron was very, that was very good to
have him. There’s a lot of storage foundations
like Veritas and so forth, so storage in a Docker environment and persistent storage
and data protection, pretty important, but also
containerizing the new wave of applications that are machine-learning and deep learning and
artificial intelligence. We got a fair look at some of
that from Solomon yesterday because Solomon mentioned
that the open AI consortium is based in their internal
test bed training network on Docker, on Swarm and so forth. I, in my prior life, I just
joined Wikibon a few weeks ago, I’ve focused on data science, which is a key development theme,
by the way, I’ll focus on for Wikibon. I saw a
lot of containerization. I saw a fair amount of Docker and a lot of the data science oriented
app dev that was going on in the business world. That’s
going to be a huge theme for me under Wikibon, but also, I mean Solomon sort of alluded
to a lot, and so did Yaron, a lot of the work that’s going on in the AI community
Dockerized their application. Tenser flowing, all that.
Huge theme we’ll probably see much more of at next
year’s DockerCon I predict containerizing AI.>>All right. Well.>>For deployment into
autonomous vehicles. Whatever.>>Jim, you’ve long been a CUBE alumn, but now you are a veteran
of doing the CUBE. I really appreciate you coming on.>>I’m on this side of the
table now. It’s amazing.>>Stu: I want to give a shout
out to the whole team here. John Furrier, I know,
was really disappointed. He loves this show. Usually my co-host. A lot of these open-sourced shows. John, you better be down here in Austin for CUBECon at the end
of the year with me. So many shows now through July 4th. The CUBE has so many activities going on. If you go to, you can see all of our upcoming shows. Always
watch us live. If we’re not at the show that you
think we should be at, go ahead and Ping us. Reach
out to us through Twitter or through the website. Jim’s research, a lot of it’s going to be on is also where
we have some research corner, some of the other pieces there, so check out the whole
SiliconANGLE Media for Jim, myself, Ava, Leonard, Brandon, Jay, Sam, who’s already heading to the airport. Thank you so much for watching The CUBE. Hope to see you at lots
of shows coming around and thank you for sharing.

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