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Eating Animals: Jonathan Safran Foer On Stopping Climate Change | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

Eating Animals: Jonathan Safran Foer On Stopping Climate Change | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC


>>>IT’S FRIDAY ON THE BEAT AND>>>IT’S FRIDAY ON THE BEAT AND YOU KNOW THAT MEANS IT’S TIME TO YOU KNOW THAT MEANS IT’S TIME TO FALL BACK. FALL BACK. I’M JOINED BY ACTOR AND COMEDIAN I’M JOINED BY ACTOR AND COMEDIAN SHERROD SMALL, AND ALSO BEEN SHERROD SMALL, AND ALSO BEEN FEATURED ON SHOWS LIKE VH1’S FEATURED ON SHOWS LIKE VH1’S BEST WEEK EVER, AND TRAVEL BEST WEEK EVER, AND TRAVEL CHANNEL’S MAN SURS S FOOD AND CHANNEL’S MAN SURS S FOOD AND ACCLAIMED AUTHOR JONATHAN SAFRAN ACCLAIMED AUTHOR JONATHAN SAFRAN FOER. FOER. HE’S A PENNED LITERARY AWARD HE’S A PENNED LITERARY AWARD WINNER. WINNER. HIS NEW BOOK GOES INTO SOME HIS NEW BOOK GOES INTO SOME POLITICAL TERRAIN. POLITICAL TERRAIN. IT’S ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE “WE IT’S ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE “WE ARE THE WEATHER” AND OUT NEXT ARE THE WEATHER” AND OUT NEXT WEEK. WEEK. THRILLED TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE. THRILLED TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE. I’M GOING TO START WITH YOU. I’M GOING TO START WITH YOU. WHO NEEDS TO FALL BACK? WHO NEEDS TO FALL BACK?>>YOU SAW CAM NEWTON, THAT LOOK>>YOU SAW CAM NEWTON, THAT LOOK HE GAVE AFTER THE GAME — HE GAVE AFTER THE GAME –>>I THINK WE HAVE THIS.>>I THINK WE HAVE THIS.>>WOW, LOOK AT HIM.>>WOW, LOOK AT HIM. HE LOOKED LIKE MY AUNT THAT HE LOOKED LIKE MY AUNT THAT DIDN’T WORK AND SHE USED TO PICK DIDN’T WORK AND SHE USED TO PICK US UP FROM SCHOOL WITH A JUICE US UP FROM SCHOOL WITH A JUICE BOX. BOX. HE, WOW — I MEAN THAT’S JUST HE, WOW — I MEAN THAT’S JUST NOT DAUGS AT LEAST HE’S– AT LEA NOT DAUGS AT LEAST HE’S– AT LEA TO IT. TO IT.>>AS A READER AND FAN OF YOUR>>AS A READER AND FAN OF YOUR WORK I THINK YOU MIGHT AGREE WORK I THINK YOU MIGHT AGREE THIS LOOK IS A BIT STETAL. THIS LOOK IS A BIT STETAL.>>IT’S AN AWESOME LOOK.>>IT’S AN AWESOME LOOK. I COULDN’T LIKE IT MORE. I COULDN’T LIKE IT MORE. MAKES ME MISS MY GRANDMA WHO WAS MAKES ME MISS MY GRANDMA WHO WAS ALSO A QUARTERBACK. ALSO A QUARTERBACK.>>WHAT’S ON YOUR FALL BACK>>WHAT’S ON YOUR FALL BACK LIST? LIST?>>THE OBSESSION WITH CLIMATE>>THE OBSESSION WITH CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS. CHANGE DENIERS. I THINK WE HAVE AN IMPRESSION I THINK WE HAVE AN IMPRESSION THAT ABOUT HALF OF THE COUNTRY THAT ABOUT HALF OF THE COUNTRY DENIES THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE DENIES THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE, AND IT’S JUST UNTRUE. CHANGE, AND IT’S JUST UNTRUE. THERE’S TWICE AS MANY AMERICANS THERE’S TWICE AS MANY AMERICANS BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF BIG BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF BIG FOOT AS DENY THE EXISTENCE OF FOOT AS DENY THE EXISTENCE OF HUMAN CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE. HUMAN CAUSED CLIMATE CHANGE. 91% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE IN THE 91% OF AMERICANS BELIEVE IN THE SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. SCIENCE OF CLIMATE CHANGE. 70% OF AMERICANS WANTED US TO 70% OF AMERICANS WANTED US TO STAY IN THE PARIS CLIMATE STAY IN THE PARIS CLIMATE ACCORDS INCLUDING A MAJORITY OF ACCORDS INCLUDING A MAJORITY OF REPUBLICANS. REPUBLICANS. AND I THINK THAT WE ARE MISSING AND I THINK THAT WE ARE MISSING THE REAL PROBLEM WHICH IS PEOPLE THE REAL PROBLEM WHICH IS PEOPLE LIKE ME, MY GUESS IS PEOPLE LIKE LIKE ME, MY GUESS IS PEOPLE LIKE THE TWO OF YOU WHO BELIEVE IN THE TWO OF YOU WHO BELIEVE IN THE SCIENCE AND WHO CARE ABOUT THE SCIENCE AND WHO CARE ABOUT THE SCIENCE AND CARE ABOUT THE THE SCIENCE AND CARE ABOUT THE FATE OF THE PLANET WHO AREN’T FATE OF THE PLANET WHO AREN’T ACTUALLY DOING THAT MUCH. ACTUALLY DOING THAT MUCH.>>WHAT I TAKE FROM THAT IS YOU>>WHAT I TAKE FROM THAT IS YOU WANT SHERROD TO STOP EATING WANT SHERROD TO STOP EATING MEAT. MEAT.>>YOU’RE A VEGETARIAN, HUH?>>YOU’RE A VEGETARIAN, HUH?>>I’M A VEGETARIAN AND IT’S>>I’M A VEGETARIAN AND IT’S BEEN A PATH TO GET HERE. BEEN A PATH TO GET HERE. I’VE BEEN AN ON AND OFF I’VE BEEN AN ON AND OFF VEGETARIAN SINCE I WAS 9. VEGETARIAN SINCE I WAS 9. BULLET I DON’T WANT YOU TO BE A BULLET I DON’T WANT YOU TO BE A VEGETARIAN, BUT I WANT YOU TO VEGETARIAN, BUT I WANT YOU TO EAT LESS MEAT. EAT LESS MEAT. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE’VE BEEN THIS IS NOT SOMETHING WE’VE BEEN LOOKING AT TOO MUCH AS A BINARY, LOOKING AT TOO MUCH AS A BINARY, EITHER YOU’RE VEGETARIAN OR YOU EITHER YOU’RE VEGETARIAN OR YOU JUST EAT MEAT INDISCREMENT JUST EAT MEAT INDISCREMENT>>AS A NOVELIST YOU BRING A LOT>>AS A NOVELIST YOU BRING A LOT OF STATISTICS. OF STATISTICS.>>I’M ALSO A JEW.>>I’M ALSO A JEW.>>IS IT TRUE WE ATE MEAT IT ATS>>IS IT TRUE WE ATE MEAT IT ATS TO THE FIRE IN BRAZIL — TO THE FIRE IN BRAZIL –>>I’M SO GLAD YOU ASKED.>>I’M SO GLAD YOU ASKED. 90% OF THE DEFORESTATION IN 90% OF THE DEFORESTATION IN BRAZIL IS FOR ANIMAL ALR BRAZIL IS FOR ANIMAL ALR AGRICULTURE. AGRICULTURE. SO EVERYBODY IS FURIOUS WITH SO EVERYBODY IS FURIOUS WITH BOLSANARO, EVERYBODY FURE WS BOLSANARO, EVERYBODY FURE WS WITH TRUMP. WITH TRUMP. WITH TRUMP. WITH TRUMP. THE REALITY IS WE SIGNED THE THE REALITY IS WE SIGNED THE CHECKS. CHECKS.>>YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH>>YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENED WITH OPRAH WHEN SHE HAD THAT KIND OF OPRAH WHEN SHE HAD THAT KIND OF TALK. TALK.>>WHAT HAPPENED?>>WHAT HAPPENED?>>THEY CAME AT HER.>>THEY CAME AT HER. THE CATTLE INDUSTRY CAME AT HER THE CATTLE INDUSTRY CAME AT HER TRYING TO SAY SHE WAS ANTI-MEAT. TRYING TO SAY SHE WAS ANTI-MEAT.>>ARE YOU SAYING THE CATTLE>>ARE YOU SAYING THE CATTLE INDUSTRY HAD BEEF WITH OPRAH? INDUSTRY HAD BEEF WITH OPRAH?>>YEAH, FLAT OUT.>>YEAH, FLAT OUT.>>I’M SORRY.>>I’M SORRY. I’M SORRY. I’M SORRY.>>IT’S HARD TO AVOID.>>IT’S HARD TO AVOID. YEAH, I’LL CUT BACK ON MEAT. YEAH, I’LL CUT BACK ON MEAT.>>YOU WILL?>>YOU WILL? LET’S RUN AN IDEA BY YOU AND I LET’S RUN AN IDEA BY YOU AND I LOVE THIS BY THE WAY BECAUSE I LOVE THIS BY THE WAY BECAUSE I FEEL YOU’RE BRINGING A LOT OF FEEL YOU’RE BRINGING A LOT OF REAL. REAL. YOU ONLY LAUGH AT WHAT YOU FEEL YOU ONLY LAUGH AT WHAT YOU FEEL IS FUNNY. IS FUNNY. YOU CAN’T FAKE A LAUGH. YOU CAN’T FAKE A LAUGH. AND YOU’RE BRINGING A LOT OF AND YOU’RE BRINGING A LOT OF IDEAL ABOUT HOW THINGS COULD BE IDEAL ABOUT HOW THINGS COULD BE BETTER OR AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT BETTER OR AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT BETTER. BETTER. WHAT IF WE ONLY ATE CARNIVORES WHAT IF WE ONLY ATE CARNIVORES BECAUSE THEY’RE EATING OTHER BECAUSE THEY’RE EATING OTHER ANIMALS. ANIMALS.>>DO YOU STAY IN THE APEX LINE?>>DO YOU STAY IN THE APEX LINE?>>I’M IN.>>I’M IN. I’M ACTUALLY NOT IN, BUT I WILL I’M ACTUALLY NOT IN, BUT I WILL WEAR THAT SCARF THAT CAM NEWTON WEAR THAT SCARF THAT CAM NEWTON WORE IF YOU STOP EATING BEEF. WORE IF YOU STOP EATING BEEF. IN FACT, IF YOU JUST TEXT ME A IN FACT, IF YOU JUST TEXT ME A PICTURE OF I YOUR MEALS WHAT PICTURE OF I YOUR MEALS WHAT YOU’RE EATING, IF YOU’RE NOT YOU’RE EATING, IF YOU’RE NOT EATING MEAT I WILL WEAR THAT EATING MEAT I WILL WEAR THAT SCARF. SCARF.>>I LOVE IT.>>I LOVE IT. THAT’S THE THING IN THE BLACK THAT’S THE THING IN THE BLACK COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE LIKE A NICE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE LIKE A NICE BARBECUE. BARBECUE.>>WELL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF>>WELL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO LIKE JEWS AFRICAN-AMERICANS WHO LIKE JEWS A DISPROPORTIONATE. A DISPROPORTIONATE. IT’S NOT MY OPINION, THE IPCC, IT’S NOT MY OPINION, THE IPCC, WHICH IS THE UNITED NATIONS WHICH IS THE UNITED NATIONS SCIENTIFIC BODY FOR CLIMATE SCIENTIFIC BODY FOR CLIMATE CHANGE SAID IF WE’RE GOING TO CHANGE SAID IF WE’RE GOING TO MEET THE PARIS ACCORDS GOALS MEET THE PARIS ACCORDS GOALS AMERICANS NEED TO EAT 90% LESS AMERICANS NEED TO EAT 90% LESS MEAT AND 60% LESS DAIRY. MEAT AND 60% LESS DAIRY.>>I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW SO MANY>>I FEEL LIKE YOU KNOW SO MANY THINGS. THINGS. I FEEL LIKE WE WOULDN’T NEED I FEEL LIKE WE WOULDN’T NEED GOOGLE. GOOGLE. WE’LL JUST CALL OVER. WE’LL JUST CALL OVER.>>AND I WON’T SPY ON YOU.>>AND I WON’T SPY ON YOU.>>I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT.>>I DON’T KNOW ABOUT THAT.>>MY LAST QUESTION TO BOTH OF>>MY LAST QUESTION TO BOTH OF YOU BECAUSE IT’S INTERESTING YOU BECAUSE IT’S INTERESTING SEEING HOW BOTH OF YOUR BRAINS SEEING HOW BOTH OF YOUR BRAINS WORK IS GIVEN THE WORK YOU DO, WORK IS GIVEN THE WORK YOU DO, WHAT IS MOST RELEVANT IN THIS WHAT IS MOST RELEVANT IN THIS WEIRD POLITICAL TIME TO YOUR WEIRD POLITICAL TIME TO YOUR COMEDY AND TO YOUR WRITING AND COMEDY AND TO YOUR WRITING AND YOUR THINKING? YOUR THINKING?>>I THINK A LOT OF THINGS, BUT>>I THINK A LOT OF THINGS, BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY RACE IS UP I WOULD HAVE TO SAY RACE IS UP THERE AND GUN VIOLENCE. THERE AND GUN VIOLENCE. SO IF YOU CAN WORK THAT INTO SO IF YOU CAN WORK THAT INTO YOUR SET, YEAH I THINK THAT’S YOUR SET, YEAH I THINK THAT’S IMPORTANT. IMPORTANT.>>WHEN YOU’RE TALKING TO>>WHEN YOU’RE TALKING TO AUDIENCES YOU’RE FEELING THE AUDIENCES YOU’RE FEELING THE REACTION. REACTION.>>AND THAT’S AROUND THE>>AND THAT’S AROUND THE COUNTRY. COUNTRY. I GOT BACK FROM VEGAS, 14 SHOWS I GOT BACK FROM VEGAS, 14 SHOWS LAST WEEK, SEVEN DAYS AND THAT LAST WEEK, SEVEN DAYS AND THAT CROWD IS A LITTLE BIT OF CROWD IS A LITTLE BIT OF EVERYTHING IN AMERICA. EVERYTHING IN AMERICA. YOU’VE GOT TO DO IN THE RIGHT YOU’VE GOT TO DO IN THE RIGHT WAY. WAY.>>AND IT’S INTERESTING YOU SAY>>AND IT’S INTERESTING YOU SAY THAT BECAUSE WE THINK ABOUT THAT BECAUSE WE THINK ABOUT POLITICS AND CULTURE HERE. POLITICS AND CULTURE HERE. THAT’S WHAT’S REAL. THAT’S WHAT’S REAL. WASHINGTON, MITCH McCONNELL WASHINGTON, MITCH McCONNELL WANTS THE GUN ISSUE TO JUST GO WANTS THE GUN ISSUE TO JUST GO AWA. AWA. AND YOU’RE SAYING AROUND THE AND YOU’RE SAYING AROUND THE COUNTRY EVERYONE’S GETTING SHOT COUNTRY EVERYONE’S GETTING SHOT OVER AND OVER AND IT’S NOT GOING OVER AND OVER AND IT’S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. TO GO AWAY. HOW ABOUT YOU? HOW ABOUT YOU?>>I JUST COMPLETELY AGREE.>>I JUST COMPLETELY AGREE. I THINK THAT WE’RE TELLING THE I THINK THAT WE’RE TELLING THE STORIES IN THE WRONG WAY, IN STORIES IN THE WRONG WAY, IN WAYS THAT POINT OUT SMALL WAYS THAT POINT OUT SMALL DIFFERENCES RATHER THAN VERY, DIFFERENCES RATHER THAN VERY, VERY BROAD AGREEMENTS. VERY BROAD AGREEMENTS. CLIMATE CHANGE IS A GREAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS A GREAT EXAMPLE. EXAMPLE. I DON’T THINK THAT REPUBLICANS I DON’T THINK THAT REPUBLICANS CARE LESS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT CARE LESS ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENT THAN DEMOCRATS DO. THAN DEMOCRATS DO. I DON’T THINK THAT CONSERVATIVES I DON’T THINK THAT CONSERVATIVES CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR KIDS THAN CARE LESS ABOUT THEIR KIDS THAN LIBERALS DO. LIBERALS DO. BUT WHEN WE TELL THE STORY IN A BUT WHEN WE TELL THE STORY IN A WAY THAT IS DEMEANING, THAT WAY THAT IS DEMEANING, THAT MAKES PEOPLE FEEL IGNORANT OR MAKES PEOPLE FEEL IGNORANT OR EVIL OR I’M BETTER THAN YOU, EVIL OR I’M BETTER THAN YOU, RATHER THAN STARTING WITH THESE RATHER THAN STARTING WITH THESE SHARED VALUES. SHARED VALUES. IT STD OF FILLING THE AIR WITH IT STD OF FILLING THE AIR WITH OUR TALK, HOW DO WE FILL THE OUR TALK, HOW DO WE FILL THE WORLD WITH OUR ACTION? WORLD WITH OUR ACTION? AND EATING LESS MEAT REALLY IS AND EATING LESS MEAT REALLY IS THE BEST PLACE TO START. THE BEST PLACE TO START.>>I LOVE THAT.>>I LOVE THAT. IT’S A FITTING WAY TO WRAP UP IT’S A FITTING WAY TO WRAP UP THIS WEEK. THIS WEEK. AND I WILL SAY I THINK AND I WILL SAY I THINK EVERYTHING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EVERYTHING IS A LITTLE BIT MORE ILLUMINATED NOW. ILLUMINATED NOW.>>BRAVO.

8 comments on “Eating Animals: Jonathan Safran Foer On Stopping Climate Change | The Beat With Ari Melber | MSNBC

  1. Before you stop eating meat, stop aluminum foundries, stop offshore drilling, stop industrial fishing factory ships, stop phosphates in the Mississippi river, stop fracking, shut down coal power, and then you can worry about what you eat. There is also test tube meat that is possible in the future. It will be much more efficient if you just grow the muscle you eat. Trump wants the election to be about guns, light bulbs and meat.

  2. All immigration from 3rd world nations to the industrialized western nations must be stopped to save the environment. Why is this fact never brought up to help climate change?

  3. Why not also add "stop overeating" on top of that?
    People eating too much adds to this problem of meat demands for no good reason at all.

    Exterminate the root of obesity and the people will get healthier as well.

  4. We should be eating insects. I don't mean sitting down to a bowl of crickets or mealworms, but if we do it like the current meatless burgers, it would go a long way to saving the planet. Insects already out-mass all other life combined. They breed so fast we could never run out. Don't need to cut down forests for grazing land or to grow feed. Higher in protein than just about anything else, but will never make you fat. I mean, if black bears and anteaters and other large creatures can survive on them, surely so can humans

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